Don’t Buy “The Iron Giant” Kids Movie
Just a quick note out to all my hunting/gun toting buddies this morning. I received an email from GunsAmerica this morning about a kids movie out on the market right now. The movie is called "The Iron Giant". Here's the email I received giving me a heads up on the movie.
Hi Everyone.
I would just like to warn gun owners and especially hunters to NOT BUY a movie on the rack at Wal-Mart this week called "The Iron Giant" for your kids. It looks like a great movie and overall it actually is, but it demonizes deer hunters and guns in general. It is THE WORST I have seen to date. The focus on the gun and say "guns kill" over and over again. The whole point of the movie is that the robot doesn't want to be a gun.
If you don't want to be surprized by a movie you innocently bought for your kids, avoid it, really. They could have introduced the concept of death to the big robot any number of ways, but the Hollywood elitists chose to use deer hunters.
These hypocrite trained monkeys probably went to lunch at Arbys everyday to eat a cow that someone else killed for them, WITHOUT A GUN.
Blech blech blech why can't these idiots understand that America has real problems, and none of them have to do with hunters or guns.
-ga
Thanks GA. Now you know what NOT to buy your kids! I have to admit, I never heard of the movie. But now that I have, I'll leave The Iron Giant on the shelf before I would bring garbage like that home to my daughter.
Don
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Hollywood sure has a warped mind. It’s too bad that many kids movies are directed at anti-hunting/anti-gun messages.
Hmm…interesting. My daughter isn’t old enough to care about a movie yet, but thanks for the heads up.
Luckily mine is still watching stuff like The Little Mermaid and Care Bears.
The babysitter was letting her watch Hanna Montana for a few nights. Then one day while I was disiplining her for something she said “You’re ruining my life!”
This from a 5 year old girl!
Needless to say, I learned that she learned that saying from HM. That show isn’t watched in my home any longer. There’s simply no way that a 5 year old can relate to a show like that.
Anyhow, sorry for the rant. This Hollywood crap of polluting kids minds is a sore spot with me.
Not only on the guns/hunting issues, but many other issues as well.
Don
I actually think it’s a great movie but also a perfect opportunity to explain to my two daughters how some film-makers try to sneak “messages” into movies. My oldest daughter even said “Now nobody will eat that deer.” after the robot scares the hunters away. She also knows that Bambi is a 4-pointer and his father is a 12.
I am seaching for some idea to write in my blog… somehow come to your blog. best of luck. Eugene
Hollywood sure has a warped mind.
That’s an interesting perspective. Some of us would think it’s “warped” to deny the sentience of animals with whom we share this planet — and to inflict pain on a feeling, thinking living thing for fun. And no, I don’t eat meat. And yes, I have hunters in my family so I’ve seen enough to know it’s not just about the meat, it’s about the thrill of the kill. So who’s “warped”? The person trying to eke out a bit more compassion on this crazy planet? Or the ones inflicting more pain? Yeah, warped.
Hey Figgis,
I have news for you. For most of us, it’s not about “the thrill of the kill”. It’s the challenge of the hunt itself. Figuring out where a certain animal lives, pattern their movements and out smarting them in their own environment. An animal that has superb senses when compared to ours. But I don’t expect people like you who live on every word PETA spews forth to understand us. So I’ll not get into a knock down dragout here with you over this issue. We’ll just have to agree to disagree.
Cheers!
Don
First, Don, I can see why you assumed I “live on every word PETA spews forth.” Because I’ve been around enough hunters to know that people like me are stereotyped that way. My uncle is a hunter as are people I grew up with.
Actually, I don’t often agree with PETA’s tactics, even if I do believe in the welfare of animals and understand how people can be as passionate as those at PETA are. They see suffering and that is their particular reaction. It is not mine.
I work in an animal control-related field where we find deer, raccoons and other wild animals in addition to domestic animals, so my compassion for them stems from personal experience. I see the pain inflicted by gun shots, by human abuse and accidental human intrusion. And it’s a brutal sad reality for me. I realize not everyone feels that way but I do. But animals have complex feelings, social structures and intelligence that is often diminished by hunters and those who would use animals for sport. That’s just the truth and I’ve had to learn to live with it. But does that make me warped? To see the sentience in these animals and wish better for them?
That’s what made me comment was the “warped” word that was used to describe those of us who have compassion for animals and who believe in an ethic that differs from yours in terms of how animals ought to be treated.
As a result of my work with animals, I have witnessed more than you might ascribe to me because of my words. To say we’re “warped” is a total misrepresentations of those who literally put our lives on the line sometimes to rescue and rehabilitate injured animals — sometimes in the face of their abusers who get violent with us. So yes, it’s a strong passion but when I saw the word “warped” to describe those of us who happen to care about an animal’s pain, I want to correct the record.
I used to give a lot of credibility to hunters because I believed they walked their talk — they at least were willing to face the gruesome reality of what it takes if you choose to eat meat (I don’t, but that’s a personal choice, not one I inflict on others).
I say “used to.” Because in the course of my work I’ve had to be informed to be an effective agent in the field. My opinions are based on my own experience and research. I’ve been to a canned hunt (just awful — if you want to see a grown man cry), I’ve been to a hunting ranch where pheasants were released and then shot immediately after being pen-raised. How is that a challenge? And if it’s not, why aren’t these practices policed from within the community of hunters who would agree with me about that?
I watched a habituated deer in a neighborhood take an arrow in a cul-de-sac. I visited a friend who used to hunt deer and fowl (southern Oregon) as he went out every night busting night hunters. He grew so sick of the rampant ethical violations (legal but not ethical) that he finally decided he didn’t want to be associated anymore. I have a friend who’s a forest ranger in Colorado who hunts one deer a season to subsist in the woods. But spends most of his time busting hunters who tear up tree seedlings in their ATVs, litter, and take pot shots in ways that would not be deemed careful or thoughtful by you, I’m sure.
So I’ve seen a lot that I think hunters assume we non-hunters don’t see.
And you can read any hunting blog on the Internet to see just how much of a “challenge” so many hunts entail. How many really involve the type of challenge you describe? Take Tred Barta. Now that’s more of a genuine challenge. But I don’t see a lot of hunters ascribing to that ethic. If that were the norm, your argument might work, even with me.
Scent-blocking camouflage, shooting from an ATV, blinds and high tech equipment. What you say about your challenge may be true in your case. But if that’s so across the board, I’d encourage some policing from within the ranks of hunters if you don’t want to give hunting a bad rap. It doesn’t work in your favor to suggest that your motives are ethical, but then to look the other way among hunters when so much is done wrong and cruelly.
If it weren’t about some joy in killing, the kill wouldn’t have to happen. I spend a lot of time camped out in the wilderness, enjoying those very things you describe. Like I said, one of my best friends is a forest ranger. But I couldn’t for the life of me pull the trigger or bow. That’s just me. I read many, many accounts of people who can’t sleep the night before deer hunting season opens, because they’re so excited to get their bull or their buck. Yes, they eat the meat. But there is an enjoyment in the hunting and kill that you can’t deny. Otherwise the kill wouldn’t be the end of the process — you’d do what I do — just watch or take photos. It’s just as hard to sneak up on a deer without a gun. I’d say stop blogging if you really want non-hunters to believe the rhetoric. And try to open your mind to those of us in the animal-caring community who don’t fit into the stereotype.
Oh, Puh-LEEEEZE!
No wonder the anti’s are so anti-gun… you guys can be such knee-jerk extremists!
I am not a hunter but I own a CZ 75B, a Benelli M4 and an SU-16. I’m a liberal but not anti-gun or anti-hunting, just anti-stupid.
The Iron Giant is a great movie, and yes, if there is something you disagree with regarding the deer hunter characterization, well fine. That’s a very small part of the whole story.
The real message is about being inflexible and hostile in the way we respond to challenges. The message isn’t “guns are bad” but rather “you can be WHATEVER you choose to be.” If you had to give it a one-word “anti” label, it would be “anti-violence” or “anti-war,” not “anti-hunting.”
This movie was created by the very same guy, Brad Bird, who was the mastermind behind Pixar’s The Incredibles etc. Garbage? Man, you are WAAAAAY overreacting. A little too sensitive. Man up, why don’t you?
It’s not quite like denying your kids the opportunity to watch Bambi, but there is nothing wrong with Iron Giant. It’s a fine animated feature. If you don’t like some supposed message about gun control, maybe you agree with the suggestion that hair trigger deployment of nuclear weapons is a bad idea?
Anyway, the story is based on The Iron Man by Ted Hughes, poet laureate of England 1984 – 1998. Pete Townshend made a very nice musical of it.
I think you deprive your children of a good show with a fairly rich background because of some minor point. I like it and I own guns and have hunted animals.
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It’s a wonderful movie. And, regardless of your views on guns, it’s a powerful plot to have the robot to not want his entire being to be reduced to an Object (in this case, a weapon). It’s a story about the struggle of a robot’s soul.
Thanks friend for the information. But it is to late for me. Actually i have bought the disk from Wal-Mart.
What about “Powder”? That cinematic TRIPE had a scene where the FREAK main character uses his psychic abilities to terrify a guy who was collecting his deer.
The movie was directed by a REGISTERED SEX OFFENDER so Hollyweird has no problem with perverts just hunters.
-Ray